Were the Ancient Greeks Black What race were the Ancient Greeks

Yes I have been to Greece several times and seen the "statues and carvings and most of the originals are indeed black looking. Most of the so called whites ones are just modern plaster fakes created in places like the Cambridge plaster museums or other 900 plaster museums. White?

Ancient Greek Vase

Ancient Greek war, 2 black men.

Ancient Greece Bust

Greek youth

Odysseus and circe

It is generally accepted among even the eurocentric historians that Odysseus was black (one of the main characters from Homer and the Odyssey. It is generally accepted among even the eurocentric historians that Odysseus was black. Black Odysseus, White Caesar: When Did "White People" Become "White"? James H. Dee The Classical Journal Vol. 99, No. 2 (Dec., 2003 - Jan., 2004), pp. 157-167 Published by: The Classical Association of the Middle West and South "Reasons behind the conclusion that Roman general Julius Caesar is a white person and Odysseus is a black person; Significance of Romance philology to the classical origin of colors; Background on the involvement of Europeans in African slave-trading.

Odysseus certainly does look black and is considered to be black. The reality is the most famous greek stories, homer and the odyssey and troy are about black people. The first about Odysseus the later Memnon. Aegean Islanders in the Tomb of Rekhmire 1400 bce Original from Egypt, Upper Egypt; Thebes, Sheikh Abd el-Qurna, Tomb of Rekhmire (TT 100), MMA graphic expedition, 1926

Minoan

sokrates Greek Royal

This is what the actual frescoes look like, they are clearly black people. Most modern Greeks are white skinned peoples except the stupid ones spraying on tan, most of the images of ancient greeks are darker than the typical african american.

Probably you seen images like this

And assumed the ancient Greeks were white based on that and media portrayals. There is no need for insults or racism. When you understand modern Greeks are often very whitejust as white as the rest of europe from a physical standpoint, it becomes even more ridiclous to think these black images are "dark white" peoples here is a greek female athlete who trains outdoors and spends lots of time outdoors, one would expect her to be darker than the average greek (she is also the one who made racist comments against africans...o the irony)

Here are greek farmers

Any how dna seems to support the fact that the ancient greeks were black. There is also a substantial amount of work from Oxford Professor in linguistic and expert in classical studies Professor Campbell Dunn and several other professors who demonstrates that the ancient Greeks were black africans who spoke a Niger Congo language and proves they were black. Dunn has written about 9 books on the subject including the african origins of classical civilization. O and he is white too. Never mind the founders of aegean civilization like Heinrick Schelimean and Arthur Evans both said the ancient greeks were indeed black the former confirming that they were indeed "negroid" and the latter agreeing. The list of experts who state this is quiet long. To give some background on Dunn's book here is a summary Quote: GJK Campbell-Dunn’s seminal study “The African Origins of Classical Civilisation” (published by AuthorHouse) presents what he calls “… a wide-ranging panorama of prehistoric civilization and barbarism,” set in the Mediterranean basin. “Behind the glory of Greece and the grandeur of Rome, there lies a dark shadow,” Campbell-Dunn says. “The shadow of black Africa.” This central premise – that many ancient civilizations, including the Minoans – were influenced by prehistoric African civilizations is what drives his research. Campbell-Dunn has assembled a battery of evidence to convince readers of his thesis. He draws widely across the area, finding evidence in the cultures of ancient Greece, Homeric Troy, and such widely-spaced landscapes as Sardinia and Spain. The evidence of African art, customs, clothing and language in these places is, he believes, incontrovertible. “The African Origins of Classical Civilisation” emphasizes archaeological, mythological and cultural data accessible to the general reader, and presents the African classics in a broad historical context. But it is also documented and indexed for scholarly reference. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/1/prweb10337627.htm Further dunn gives a quick time line for those who want CLIFF NOTES Quote: The original African migration of hunter-gatherers into Europe took place in the Palaeolithic Period and earlier. About 6000 BC or earlier immigrants started arriving on foot from Asia, and with them came farming and livestock. Then, about 3000 BC, Indo-European languages were introduced, and with them the horse and the wheel. But the speakers of these did not differ genetically from the earlier mixed Asian immigrants. Their change of language was like a change of clothes, so to speak, relatively superficial. The result was the modern genetic constitution of Europe, 35% African, 65% mixed Mediterranean or Afro-Asian. This is in accord with the genetic evidence which testifies to the unity of the Mediterranean peoples and does not recognize a separate “Indo-European” stock. Arnaiz -Villena, Gomez-Casado and Martinez-Laso (2002) state clearly that there is no genetic trace of an Aryan migration, and that if it occurred, it must have been a domination by a small élite. Asia Minor, before the coming of the Afro-Asiatic farmers, was also colonized by African peoples, as Runoko Rashidi (1993) has argued in a recent publication by Karnak House. The survival in antiquity of a Niger-Congo language on Lemnos, which was closely related to Etruscan is proof of this. And Minoan Crete, as we now know , (Campbell-Dunn in Minoan Linear Scripts : The Niger-Congo Context), was African (Niger-Congo). A non-Indo-European language was still spoken at Praisos on E. Crete in the fourth century BC (Stanford 1948 : II, 322). The shores of the Aegean and Mediterranean therefore were originally occupied by Africans, and subsequently overlaid by Afro-Asiatic farmers. It follows that the Mediterranean was once, in the remote past, the home of African blacks. No doubt this is the reason that the Mediterranean peoples are olive skinned, a blend of Afro-Asiatics and of black Africans, from closer to the equator. But this is not a linguistic question, and raises controversial issues outside the ambit of our inquiry. So we will not pursue it further. http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/gc_du...inguistics.pdf

The African Origins of Classical Civilisation: GJK Campbell-Dunn: 9781434350800: Amazon.com: Books The African Origins of Classical Civilisation Paperback by GJK Campbell-Dunn Anyone doubting the genetics need look no further than the eurocentric white grand daddy of genetics who Cavailli Sforza who states: Quote:

We learn that Europeans are, in their ancestry, about two-thirds Asian and one-third African

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/01/bo...ted=all&src=pm Quote: Some Africans colonized Asia, and then Australia (55,000 years ago) and North America (maybe 30,000 years ago). About 40,000 years ago others from Africa, along with colonists from Asia, founded the European population of Homo sapiens and, probably, as they did so, eliminated the Neanderthals who had preceded them. Cavalli-Sforza, a geneticist at Stanford for many years, first produced a tree of human evolution in the 1960's. Indeed, he largely invented the idea, and it was not until the 80's that other scientists looked at the same question, using other kinds of genetic evidence. They have supported his main conclusions. http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/08/2...20ridleyt.html Bear in mind when he is saying Asians, he is saying black people in asia but in the typical white fashion cannot speak truth. He can admit black colonized asia, australia and the americas as far back as 30,000 years ago based on genetics... funny no one calls him a conspiracy theorist, I guess it is because he is white. Then those same black africans who moved to asia colonized europe. Its actually ironic because you have roland b dixon from harvard and sforza from standford both with high standing in the white eurocentrick community admitting the original americans were black africans but when people like dr winters who are black write the same thing, white folks get all uppity about it. Any how dna seems to support the fact that the ancient greeks were black. Quote: Phylogeographic analysis of haplogroup E3b (E-M215) y chromosomes reveals multiple migratory events within and out of Africa. Cruciani F, La Fratta R, Santolamazza P, Sellitto D, Pascone R, Moral P, Watson E, Guida V, Colomb EB, Zaharova B, Lavinha J, Vona G, Aman R, Cali F, Akar N, Richards M, Torroni A, Novelletto A, Scozzari R. Source Dipartimento di Genetica e Biologia Molecolare, Universita "La Sapienza," 00185 Rome, Italy. "Although E-M78β and E-M78γ show only modest levels of gene flow (from northern Africa to Europe and from eastern to northern Africa, respectively), the clinal frequency distribution of E-M78α within Europe testifies to important dispersal(s), most likely Neolithic or post-Neolithic. These took place from the Balkans, where the highest frequencies are observed, in all directions, as far as Iberia to the west and, most likely, also to Turkey to the southeast. Thus, it appears that, in Europe, the overall frequency pattern of the haplogroup E-M78, the most frequent E3b haplogroup in this region, is mostly contributed by a new molecular type that distinguishes it from the aboriginal E3b chromosomes from the Near East. These data are hard to reconcile with the hypothesis of a uniform spread of a single Near Eastern gene pool into southeastern Europe. On the other hand, they might be consistent with either a small-scale leapfrog migration from Anatolia into southeastern Europe at the beginning of the Neolithic or with an expansion of indigenous people in southeastern Europe in response to the arrival of the Neolithic cultural package. At the present level of phylogenetic resolution, it is difficult to distinguish between these possibilities." e-m78 occurs highest in the borana from kenya at 78%. The peer reviewed document makes it clear that e-m78 went from northern africa into europe and from eastern africa into northern africa. In otherwords, people from east africa moved north to north africa and then into europe (the only way you can pretty much most obvious way to get to europe from east africa by land. The neolithic or post neolithic makes is clear that around the neolithic and post neolithic age or bronze age ie. when ancient greece was just starting black africans from east africa arriving into greece. This shuts down the no blacks in ancient greece but slaves. These people were clearly the founders who had been arriving from the neolithic and post neolithic era and spread all over europe and turkey. Quote: "E3b—that is, it had (1) the highest number of different E3b clades (table 1), (2) a high frequency of this haplogroup and a high microsatellite diversity, and, finally, (3) the exclusive presence of the undifferentiated E3b* paragroup. Our data show that haplogroup E3b appears as a collection of subclades with very different evolutionary histories. Haplogroup E-M78 was observed over a wide area, including eastern (21.5%) and northern (18.5%) Africa, the Near East (5.8%), and Europe (7.2%), where it represents by far the most common E3b subhaplogroup. The high frequency of this clade (table 1) and its high microsatellite diversity suggest that it originated in eastern Africa, 23.2 ky ago (95% CI 21.1–25.4 ky)" Translation e1b1b or e3b (same thing different names) originates in east africa Quote: "The relatively high frequency of DYS413 24/23 haplogroup E chromosomes in Greece (A.N., unpublished data) suggests that cluster α of the E-M78 haplogroup is common in the Aegean area, too." Greeks particularly in the Aegean have dna originating in africa. They were never involved in the african slave trade, the greeks themselves were enslaved by turks during colonialism. "The cluster E-M78γ was found in eastern Africa at an average frequency of 17.7%, with the highest frequencies in the three Cusheeitic-speaking groups: the Borana from Kenya (71.4%), the Oromo from Ethiopia (32.0%), and the Somali (52.2%)." Probably why they excluded these groups and did not look at y-dna when testing the dna of the minoans. Quote: "In conclusion, we detected the signatures of several distinct processes of migration and/or recurrent gene flow associated with the dispersal of haplogroup E3b lineages.Early events involved the dispersal of E-M78δ chromosomes from eastern Africa into and out of Africa, as well as the introduction of the E-M34 subclade into Africa from the Near East. Later events involved short-range migrations within Africa (E-M78γ and E-V6) and from northern Africa into Europe (E-M81 and E-M78β), as well as an important range expansion from the Balkans to western and southern-central Europe (E-M78α). This latter expansion was the main contributor to the present distribution of E3b chromosomes in Europe." In otherwords, European E is of african origin (like all E) and represent black african migration into europe going back to the neolithic period and post neolithic period. Quote: "The two E-M78 chromosomes found in Pakistan, at the eastern borders of the area of dispersal of haplogroup E3b, also belong to cluster δ. On the basis of these data, we suggest that cluster δ was involved in a first dispersal or dispersals of E-M78 chromosomes from eastern Africa into northern Africa and the Near East. Time-of-divergence estimates for E-M78δ chromosomes suggest a relatively great antiquity (14.7±2.7 ky) for the separation of eastern Africans from the other populations. A later range expansion from the Near East or, possibly, from northern Africa would have introduced E-M78 cluster δ into Europe. However, given the low frequencies of E-M78δ, it seems to have contributed only marginally to the shaping of the present E-M78 frequency distribution in Africa and western Eurasia. Indeed, later (and previously undetected) demographic population expansions involving clusters α in Europe (TMRCA 7.8 ky; 95% CI 6.3–9.2 ky), β in northwestern Africa (5.2 ky; 95% CI 3.2–7.5 ky), and γ in eastern Africa (9.6 ky; 95% CI 7.2–12.9 ky) should be considered the main contributors to the relatively high frequency of haplogroup E-M78 in the surveyed area." the results when it proved blacks were in Europe 6300 - 9200 years ago or 4300-7200 bc, black east africans from kenya with the e-m78 haplogroup showed up in europe so they through away the results and claimed it was undetected. Quote: "E3b1-M78 is the most common haplogroup E lineage in Europe (Cruciani et al. 2004; Semino et al. 2004). The spatial pattern shown in figure 4(C) depicts a nonuniform E3b1 geographic distribution with a frequency peak centered in south Europe and SEE (13%–16% in southern Italians and 17%–27% in the Balkans). Declining frequencies are evident toward western (10% in northern and central Italians), central, and eastern Europe (from 4% to 10% in Polish, Russians, mainland Croatians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Herzegovinians, and Bosnians). Noteworthy is a low E3b1 frequency (5%) in Turkey. Apart from its presence in Europe and the Middle East, E3b1 is also found in eastern and northern Africa. Cruciani et al. (2004) estimated that E3b-M78 might have originated in eastern Africa about 23.2 KYA (95% confidence interval [CI] 21.1–25.4)." High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations Marijana Peričić*, 1 , Lovorka Barać Lauc*, 1 , Irena Martinović Klarić*, Siiri Rootsi†, Branka Janićijević*, Igor Rudan‡§, Rifet Terzić∥, Ivanka Čolak¶, Ante Kvesić¶, Dan Popović*, Ana Šijački#, Ibrahim Behluli**, Dobrivoje Đorđevi憆, Ljudmila Efremovska††, Đorđe D. Bajec#, Branislav D. Stefanović#, Richard Villems† and Pavao Rudan* So, do the eurocentricks want to explain why they have a haplogroup originating in Africa 23,000 years ago at 27% in places where black people supposedly never were? Black dna, black art, black literature, black niger-congo language. All the evidence proves they indeed were black. As for where the black greeks went, between the balto-slavic expansion and the germanic about 10 or so invasions between 2 ad and 8 ad that is basically enough to wipe out most the features we'd associate with blacks. Although ancient black greek cmmunities can still be found in places like xanthi near patramio. The Ancient Greeks were undoubtedly a black civilization.

Its funny people are in denial but a picture says 1 thousands words

Ancient Greeks had black dna that still lives on many current greeks

Not only were the ancient greeks black and not white... in numerous occasions they express their like for black skin and dislike of white skin. If anything the Ancient Greeks were racist against whites because they always show the hero Hercules killing white people

Modern Eurocentrist cannot explain why Greeks have such high black African dna despite Greece being enslaved by turkey and having no modern large influx of black people. They cannot explain nor refute the dna, linguistic and archaeological evidence nor the art. Here are some visuals which explain how African spread into greece

As for why Greece is not still black.... very simple. Between 2 ad and 11 ad, 11 civilizations conquested and invaded, raped, raided and pillaged, often back and forth in Greece and none of these raiders were black. And the number may be much higher as I am classifying broadly groups like the Germanics and Slavs and balto-slavic expansion in Europe as a single group when it was really dozens. I could go on and on, the city of Athens is named after the black african goddess called neith or nth (the greek word for it basically the difference between "heyzus" and jesus). The city of Dodona, Greece is named after the African Dodoma which is named after an African goddess. The greek word for king was Minos, and the one of the niger congo languages it is Mansa. Niger Congo languages form roots by eliminate vowels hence they are the same word Greek = Minos = M-N-S nIGER-CONGO = Mansa = M-N-S Latin = Regem French = Roi English = King Italian = Re It is obvious the Indo-European languages are not anywhere near close to greek as the niger-congo ones for obvious reasons. The greeks were black niger-congoan speaking africans. They are the same word with the same meaning and linear A & B have been decoded by 3 linguistic using Niger-congo languages. One french, one American, and one oxford brit professor. In fact Niger Congo speakers can read and clearly understand these dead languages because they are in the same family and so closely related. Yet none of the indo-european languages share enough similarity with ancient greek to even decode them. As for Greek being an indo-european language. Linguist have classified it as this due to ignorance of Niger-Congo languages in the 1900s when it was being classified. Recall Africa was known as the dark continent. Europeans academics couldn't even name a major african language without looking in a book never mind recognize its family. Even at this time it was acknowledge greek was only 30% indo european and it has since been understood that the remainder and majority of modern Greek is actually a niger-congo language. The 30% Indo-European comes from interaction with 1000 years of indo-european invaders from 2ad to 11 ad. Egyptian Pharaoh killing white Invaders and rapist.